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9 years ago
"How To Read Tabs" Correction 6164 views  
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Ebon-Ivor


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Something I noticed in the "How To Read Tabs" section that could be confusing to new tabbers is under "Tabs for sheet music fans:" where it shows a picture of sheet music notation of 3 beats of quarter notes the piano tab notation equivalent doesn't show the proper timing for the notes. It should be:

4|b>>>----------
4|g>>>----------
4|e>>>----D>>>--
3|----b>>>------

This might help a lot of people with their timing issues on here.

 

9 years ago
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Ebon-Ivor


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20 Posts
Maybe you could add this to help people even more with their timing:

Examples of Note Timing -

1/16 -c-
1/8   -c>-
1/4   -c>>>-
3/8   -c>>>>>-
1/2   -c>>>>>>>-
3/4   -c>>>>>>>>>>>-
Whole -c>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>-

 

9 years ago
Re:
BA


Admin
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337 Posts
An excellent point. However the debate over how best to represent note durations (and rests) still lives on. Once we come to a final consensus then we will update the "how to" page.

Rests topic:
http://tabnabber.com/FORUM2/display_message.as...

 

9 years ago
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Robobox300


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[Admin]

72 Posts
Hey dread pirate Roberts, ready to update ?
 

9 years ago
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BA


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[Admin]

337 Posts
As you wish, butter nuts ;D
 

9 years ago
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Da Tickler


Tabologist
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183 Posts
Just stay out of the fire swamp & avoid the ROUS's!
 

9 years ago
Re:
BA


Admin
[Admin]

337 Posts
Rodents of unusual size? I don't think they exist.

aaaaarrrgh!

"How to read tabs" is updated. To borrow from DaTickler's Ultimate tab lesson (located here: http://tabnabber.com/view_Tab.asp?tabID=9972&a... ) a whole note in 3/4 time is a different length than a whole note in 4/4 time:

3/4 TIME (12 increments/measure)
R4|d>>>>>>>>>>>|------------|

4/4 TIME (16 increments/measure)
R4|d>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>|----------------|


I'd like to put a legend out for note timings, but unfortunately it varies depending on what time signature the music is in, which complicates the legend. But we do need to incorporate some of the insights from DT's Ultimate Tab Lesson into the "How to read tabs" page, (esp. the timings info). Is that cool with you, Da Tickler?

 

9 years ago
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Da Tickler


Tabologist
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183 Posts
Use whatever you want out of it, but I'm 99.9999% certain a whole note is a 4-count note no matter what the time signature is. I have always seen 3/4 notes (1/2 note with a dot) written as taking up all 3 quarter counts in a measure in 3/4 time, & half notes as taking up both counts in a measure in 2/4 time. At least that's what I've always seen any any sheet music I've ever seen. Hence, Ebon-Ivor's show of notes is correct. You been drinking with Inigo Montoya again?
 

9 years ago
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Da Tickler


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183 Posts
See this link for 3/4 time notation. Note how 3 quarter notes make up a measure in 3/4 time (3 quarter notes per measure). Hence, a single note spanning a complete measure in 3/4 time is a 3/4 note (half note + dot), and a half note (half note = 2 x 1/4 note) spans an entire measure in 2/4 time (2 quarter notes per measure).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_signature

Scroll down the page a little & you'll see how time signature has no effect on how many counts standard note notation gets under the 'Most frequent time signatures' heading. The time signature only tells you how many of a certain length note are in one measure:
'4/4' - 4 qrtr. notes = (2) half notes = 1 whole note;
'3/4' - 3 qrtr. notes = (1) 3/4 note;
'2/4' - 2 qrtr. notes = (1) half note;
'6/8' - 6 eighth notes = (2) 3/4 notes = 1-1/2 whole note; etc.

 

9 years ago
Re:
BA


Admin
[Admin]

337 Posts
Thanks DT.

What I'm referring to is the number of ">" symbols.   The number of ">" symbols after a given note varies depending on the time signature, as well as the number of increments used.

So while this legend would work for 4/4 time using 16 increments / measure:
1/16 |c---------------|
1/8   |c>--------------|
1/4   |c>>>------------|
3/8   |c>>>>>----------|
1/2   |c>>>>>>>--------|
3/4   |c>>>>>>>>>>>----|
Whole |c>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>|

A different legend would be needed for 3/4 time using 24 increments / measure:
1/8   |c>>---------------------|
1/4   |c>>>>>------------------|
3/8   |c>>>>>>>>---------------|
1/2   |c>>>>>>>>>>>------------|
3/4   |c>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>------|
Whole |c>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>|

 

9 years ago
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Da Tickler


Tabologist
[Tabologist]

183 Posts
Ah-ha, I see what you're sayin', now. The time signature along with the shortest note to be displayed would have an effect on the # of '>'s per note. 3/4 time could be:
1) 3 inc's/meas. if 1/4 notes were the shortest note in the song;
2) 6 inc's/meas. if 1/8 notes were the shortest note in the song;
3) 12 inc's/meas. if 1/16 notes were the shortest note in the song;
4) 24 inc's/meas. if 1/32 notes were the shortest note in the song; etc.; etc.; etc... & other time sig's would vary the # of '>'s per note as well.

I'll have to update the UTL with a formula for determining the # of '>'s to be used for note lengths with a couple of examples. Maybe I'll go have a drink or 2 with Inigo for some inspiration 'cuz I've been 'mostly' dead all day, today.

 

9 years ago
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Da Tickler


Tabologist
[Tabologist]

183 Posts
O.K., BA (& other distinguished ADMINS… namely Robobox & Belliza), take a look at item #4 (TIMING) on my Ultimate Tab Lesson. I have added the mathematical formulas for determining minimum measure, & required note lengths with several typical examples. If you find anything wrong (technical or 'splelingn'), or find any of just don't make no sense, please let me know & we'll modify it as need be. Or, if you think of something you'd like me to add to it, all suggestions are welcome.
I feel like I just climbed the 'Cliffs of Insanity'!

 

9 years ago
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Da Tickler


Tabologist
[Tabologist]

183 Posts
Once I catch my breath I'll explain further what happens when the time signature changes within a song… or maybe that'll be the 'Ultimate, Ultimate, Tab Lesson' (LOL)!
 

9 years ago
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Da Tickler


Tabologist
[Tabologist]

183 Posts
I've already gone back & corrected a couple of things since the previous post.
 

9 years ago
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Da Tickler


Tabologist
[Tabologist]

183 Posts
I noticed under 'Reading tabs (advanced symbols):' section, you have:

     [D]      [Gm]
R 3|--F-d-F-|--g-d-g-|--------|
L 2|F>>>>>>>|g>>>>>>>|F.------|
L 1|F>>>>>>>|g>>>>>>>|F.------|

The 'D' "chord" is actually 'D/F#' (if it is a chord).

 

9 years ago
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slickrick


Tabologist
[Tabologist]

89 Posts
The chords above the tab are supplemental to the tab below it, right?

Holy sh!t that timing stuff is complicated. I always just ear-ball it to get my timings right.

 

9 years ago
Re:
Da Tickler


Tabologist
[Tabologist]

183 Posts
From all the printed music I've ever seen the chords shown above the staves 'complement' the music being played below them within the staves.
 

9 years ago
Re:
BA


Admin
[Admin]

337 Posts
Complement / supplement?   Not sure I follow you guys. But does this make for a better example?

     [D]      [Gm]
R 3|--a-d-F-|--g-d-g-|--------|
L 2|F>d>>>>>|g>d>>>>>|F.------|
L 1|F>F>>>>>|g>A>>>>>|F.------|

 

9 years ago
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Da Tickler


Tabologist
[Tabologist]

183 Posts
Technically, that's more correct.
 
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